need seven positive impressions to prove the dial here and you need this and that and you guys have it all figured out and usually it creeps up on people. but the race really did, it just changed overnight during that debate. it's a long-term impact. we don't know, we just know that it's going to make it more competitive, romney will go ahead in states like florida, virginia, north carolina, but these other states, he still has room to make up. >> i think you co-talk to pollst pollsters, they have never seen ever, a shift like that, you need a debate in front of 70 million people. what i find interesting is next week, obama, the good news is that he's the underdog, all he's got to do is look aggressive, feel aggressive. having said that, if romney wins that debate again, i think he wins the election.